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		<description><![CDATA[Likes:
1. Lightning fast. Works great with Wikipedia pages, vbulletin forums, Google applications like Gmail, Google reader.
2. Connectivity. Not only does http://nonoh.net loads damn fast, i am also getting connected to all calls without delay and fail. From Firefox I couldn&#8217;t connect properly many times.
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<p>1. Lightning fast. Works great with Wikipedia pages, vbulletin forums, Google applications like Gmail, Google reader.</p>
<p>2. Connectivity. Not only does http://nonoh.net loads damn fast, i am also getting connected to all calls without delay and fail. From Firefox I couldn&#8217;t connect properly many times.</p>
<p>3. Larger screen space. Uncluttered menu.  I used to press F11 often in Firefox too.</p>
<p>4. Download manager. It is easier to locate downloads now.  </p>
<p>5. Tabs Managment. Tabs opened from one page are grouped together. You can close all tabs except the current tab, close tabs to the right, close tabs opened by the current tab. You can drag and reorder the them. You can pull out a tab and get a new window. </p>
<p>6. Isolated tab processes. One tab doesn&#8217;t crash the whole window. </p>
<p>7. Pleasing interface colour.</p>
<p>8. Application shortcuts. Now i made application shortcuts for Wikipedia, Google reader, Gmail, Twitter, Nonoh. I use them so often that i better think them of as applications not as webpages. Mozilla Prism does this too. But the integration and ease of use is better. </p>
<p>9. Speed dial. </p>
<p>10. Easy to install. Imports Favourites, browsing history, passwords.</p>
<p>11. Inspect element. The view source page is rich in presentation.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Could have been better:</p>
<p>1. Some media plugins not there.</p>
<p>2. Websites using Flash crash  / stop sometimes.</p>
<p>3. No Master Password option. Privacy concerns if more people can access your computer.</p>
<p>4. Highlighting, selecting is not smooth. Cursor placement at the end by mouse also not possible.</p>
<p>5. Except for NHM writer, Phonetic based indian input method editor softwares like E-Kalappai not working. Otherwise only Tamil99 or Inscript based keyboard users can write in Tamil.</p>
<p>6. I am too used to Firefox 3 location bar. It was better in ease of use. I could type any letter in the website title / url and get my sites. Also, it displayed the title name above url which is easy to read. </p>
<p>7. Speed dial is not accurate and we have no control over it.</p>
<p>8. No auto feed discovery.</p>
<p>9. Could allow installing Firefox add-ons. I miss them.</p>
<p>10. No auto suggest for searching bookmarks, history, downloads etc.,</p>
<p>11. Sometimes freezes when visiting Flash, Adobe Pdf pages.</p>
<hr><h2>2 Comments</h2> <ul><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/google-chrome/#comment-496">September 4, 2008</a>, <a href='http://mayuonline.com/eblog' rel='external nofollow'>Mayooresan</a> wrote:</p><p>இது வரை பாவித்துப்பார்க்கவில்லை... ஆனாலும் தமிழில் தட்டச்சிட முடியாதென்பது மன்னிக்கப்பட முடியாத குற்றம்.</p><p></p><p>ஹிந்தி இடைமுகம் கிடைக்கிறதே.... தமிழ் கிடைக்குமோ??? ;)</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/google-chrome/#comment-498">September 4, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>NHM writer மட்டும் இப்ப சரி செஞ்சிருக்காங்க. அதைப் பத்தி அறியாத மற்ற இந்திய மொழிகள், தமிழ் எழுதிகள் பயனர்களுக்கு சிரமம் தான். கூகுள் இதில கோட்டை விட்டது ஆச்சர்யமா இருக்கு. கூகுள் சோதனைக் குழுவுல தமிழ்ல எழுதுற ஒரு ஆள் இல்லையோ :( (குரோம் பத்தின அறிவிப்பு விட்ட சுந்தர் பிச்சை ஒரு தமிழர்னு நினைக்கிறேன் !)</p><p></p><p>கூகுள் உள்ளூர் பதிப்புகள் விடுறதுல நிறைய ஆர்வம் காட்டி வருது. தமிழுக்கும் கூடிய சீக்கிரம் வரும்னு கண்டிப்பா எதிர்ப்பார்க்கலாம்</p></li></ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bruno brought to my notice that there is something fishy about the IIT seats being left unfilled.
This seems like a big scandal and completely insane !!
The people at the IIT admission committee don&#8217;t seem to know how to implement reservation or they don&#8217;t want to !
This is how reservation works:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://payanangal.blogspot.com">Bruno</a> brought to my notice that there is <a href="http://nanopolitan.blogspot.com/2008/08/at-glance-2008-jee-results.html">something fishy about the IIT seats being left unfilled</a>.</p>
<p>This seems like a big scandal and completely insane !!</p>
<p>The people at the IIT admission committee don&#8217;t seem to know how to implement reservation or they don&#8217;t want to !</p>
<p>This is how reservation works:</p>
<p>The eligibility marks in Maths, Physics, Chemistry are 5, 0 and 3. Those who got more than eligibility marks can all apply to get admitted.</p>
<p>Say, we have totally 100 seats. and 20 for Open competition, 40 for OBC, 40 For SC-ST (just some random percents)</p>
<p>Top 20 rankers (including OBC, SC-ST not just FC) will get admitted into the 20 seats for Open competetion. The aggregate score of the 20th person will be the cut-off for Open competition. You should note that the cut-off is an incidental score set by the 20th person.</p>
<p>Then the next 40 seats are filled by the next 40 Top ranking OBC. even if the 40th person got just 5, 0, 3 the minimum eligible mark, he deserves to get the seat filled. He doesn&#8217;t need to have a top score.</p>
<p>&#8230;and the procedure continues for SC-ST.</p>
<p>No one fixes the cut-off first. It gets automatically fixed when the seats are filled. It can only be known after all seats are filled and serves as an indication for next year candidates how much they  may need to score to get admitted in their quota.</p>
<p>fixing the cut-off mark first and driving away prospective students from each quota and proposing to merge these seats to common pool and get some more FC getting added is plain cheating.</p>
<p>For anyone who follows TNPCEE procedure, we expect that the cut-off marks for Open competetion, OBC, SC-ST should be really distinct and significantly lesser than Open competetion.</p>
<p>This is how reservation should work.</p>
<hr><h2>64 Comments</h2> <ul><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-359">August 5, 2008</a>, <a href='http://msathia.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow'>msathia</a> wrote:</p><p></p><p>I dont think there is any FC quota. It should read as OC. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I have a question what about people say in FC who get less than the top most level cut off. </p><p></p><p>what about people in  SC, FC,  OBC or any category who just merely passed but couldnt make it to number of seats. </p><p></p><p>The current system is way too much favouring BCs rather than any other category. And for SCs and STs no way they are ever going to improve with this system.  </p><p></p><p>Anyone who wants to have education if not given opportunity in any form because of limited seats, fees or capability is going to be an injustice in the name of social justice. </p><p></p><p>-msathia</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-360">August 5, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>sathia, i've corrected the FC / OC confusion. </p><p></p><p>the cons u mentioned r inevitable when v have limited seats. i believe, in the long term increasing the seats with consistent quality everywhere is the solution.</p><p></p><p>can u explain how BCs profit more? I don't understand it. Thanks.</p><p></p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-361">August 5, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>http://bruno.penandscale.com/search/label/IITJEE</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-362">August 5, 2008</a>, <a href='http://msathia.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow'>msathia</a> wrote:</p><p>I know we are digressing from topic here. But still is it not a "bad justification " because something can be "inevitatble" in a system. Then that system may not be "totally wrong" but it is "not correct".  Coming to the second point you know the how Indian system currently is, in which we are never going to get the correct picture (even RTI is made mockery but still a welcome change). So I really dont have a statistical analysis to show case that BCs are more favoured. More from random assessment I can definitely say SC and STs are less favoured compared to BCs(including OBCs) and FCs. My argument is simply is this.  Say,  X students out of total Y population gets the benefit because of reservation/money/social power for every community. So</p><p>X(FC)/Y(Tot FC) &gt; X(BC)/Y(Tot BC) &gt; X(SC)/Y(Tot SC) &gt; X(ST)/Y(Tot ST)   Adding another dimension is the inclusivity of women across all categories. </p><p>Read this too http://keetru.com/dalithmurasu/apr08/fund.php</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-363">August 5, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//Say, X students out of total Y population gets the benefit because of reservation/money/social power for every community//</p><p></p><p>If so</p><p></p><p>SC = 1</p><p>ST = 1</p><p>FC &gt; 1 (more seats than population percentage)</p><p>BC &lt; 1 (less seats than population percentage)</p><p></p><p>So the most favoured is FC</p><p>Least favoured in BC</p><p></p><p>-</p><p></p><p>This is as per your logic</p><p></p><p>Can you enlighten us more :) :) :)</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-364">August 5, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//even RTI is made mockery but still a welcome change).//</p><p></p><p>But only because of RTI, IITs were forced to release the marks</p><p></p><p>and </p><p></p><p>Suddenly we see candidates from reserved category getting ranks in the Open Merit List</p><p></p><p>How come BC Candidates became so intelligent in one year :) :) :) :) </p><p></p><p>-</p><p></p><p>When the mark details were not released - NO Reserved Candidates in Open List</p><p></p><p>When Marks have to be released - More Reserved Candidates in Open List</p><p></p><p>-</p><p></p><p>Does this tell you about IIT</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-365">August 5, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>sathia, i agree there are pros and cons and definitely reservation can be implemented in a better way. but even with the current implementation,  compared to the cons, the pros are better, i feel. so instead of having no reservation, i am for having it in some way. This article explains how anyone who implements reservation would be expected 2 to it. </p><p></p><p>Having a faulty method of implementation intentionally and making it an excuse for rolling back reservation is unacceptable. Because, the current reservation scheme was a result of decades of efforts</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-366">August 6, 2008</a>, <a href='http://msathia.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow'>msathia</a> wrote:</p><p>Ravi,</p><p> Nowhere I am suggesting that Reservation to be scrapped.</p><p> I would say this is the best system possible. I totally agree, compare this how US(the only country I have exposure to at personal level hence US), is incentivising Afro Americans and Native Indians by monetary means  and still they have not yet achieved what they what.  My point is how to improvise the existing system definitely not by still dropping people fall off from the opportunities. May be I live it Utopia but still I want it !! </p><p></p><p>///Having a faulty method of implementation ///</p><p>My point is exactly this. The whole reservation is not uniformaly implemented not only with this IIT example at every level it has faults which needs correction.One another area is reservation for promotions in govt jobs.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-367">August 6, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>As far as TN Government is Concerned, Once you have entered the service, then there is no reservation in promotion.</p><p></p><p>The 100 point roster solves the issue very beautifically</p><p></p><p>The rotation roster followed by few institutes are done with the intention of minimising the reservation and in the turn few FC candidates are also affected</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-368">August 6, 2008</a>, <a href='http://msathia.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow'>msathia</a> wrote:</p><p>Does this tell you about IIT?</p><p> &gt;&gt; I have no doubts about that. Yes, I agree. This might be happening and because of RTI we got this information. </p><p></p><p>---------------------</p><p>If so</p><p></p><p>SC = 1</p><p>ST = 1</p><p>FC &gt; 1 (more seats than population percentage)</p><p>BC &gt; How come SC=1 and ST=1?</p><p></p><p>In "more seats than population percentage"</p><p> FC&gt;BC&gt;SC&gt;ST  This is my logic.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-369">August 6, 2008</a>, <a href='http://msathia.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow'>msathia</a> wrote:</p><p>//As far as TN Government is Concerned, Once you have entered the service, then there is no reservation in promotion//</p><p>Until recently there was reservation in promotions.  Not sure on recent developments as there were lots of tribunal and suprement court judgements on this. </p><p>Check this out for reservation in promotions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservation_in_India</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-370">August 6, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//How come SC=1 and ST=1?//</p><p></p><p>Population of SC is 15 % (in India) They get 15 % Reservation</p><p></p><p>Reservation Percentage / Population Percentage = 1 </p><p></p><p>Population of ST is 7.5 % (in India) They get 7.5 % Reservation</p><p></p><p>Reservation Percentage / Population Percentage = 1 </p><p></p><p>Population of BC in India &gt; 50 %. But they get only 27 % reservation</p><p></p><p>So 27/50 &lt;1</p><p></p><p>Is this clear</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-371">August 7, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//Until recently there was reservation in promotions.  Not sure on recent developments as there were lots of tribunal and suprement court judgements on this.//</p><p></p><p>Even TODAY there are reservations in promotions. But the method follows is what makes that meaningful or not</p><p></p><p>In the 100 point roster, the candidate is given the advantage at the time of recruitment itself. So there won't be any caste criteria at the promotion stage</p><p></p><p>Where as in Rotation Roster the seats are reserved</p><p></p><p>-</p><p></p><p>For example if 100 professors have to be appointed in Central Government Run Institutes in 2008, then 15 will be reserved for SC , 7.5 for ST and 27 for OBC. This leads to a lot of confusion</p><p></p><p>-</p><p></p><p>But in Tamil Nadu, there is NO SUCH Reservation. On the other hands, the 100 point roster (formulated at the time of appointment) makes sure that all the communities are equally distributed</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-372">August 7, 2008</a>, <a href='http://msathia.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow'>msathia</a> wrote:</p><p>Ravi,</p><p> You microblog is becoming macroblog. Thanks for the platform.</p><p></p><p>Bruno,</p><p> Couple of points.</p><p> 1.//But in Tamil Nadu, there is NO SUCH Reservation. On the other hands, the 100 point roster (formulated at the time of appointment) makes sure that all the communities are equally distributed//</p><p> a) From which year this was formulated and this is the procedure. Any detail on how this roster works will help as I really have no idea on this system. </p><p>b) What about central govt. Is it not an injustice (to any category) if there are (and will be) just few seats are available for promotions  and we know the duration of promotion chances in govt? Dont you think it is injustice? </p><p></p><p>2.//Population of BC in India &gt; 50 %. But they get only 27 % reservation</p><p></p><p>So 27/50 &lt;1 //</p><p></p><p>  Please refer my second comment in this chain.&lt; X(BC)/Y(Tot BC) &gt; X(SC)/Y(Tot SC) &gt; X(ST)/Y(Tot ST&gt;&gt; </p><p></p><p> My basis was not on % of  reservation alone.  Since I was subjectively putting the x&gt;y&gt;z&gt;a formula now you are coming out with numbers I will put the question differently.</p><p></p><p>  a) Do you mean to say that out of the say 60% of BCs ONLY 27% actually get seats and they need more % of seats reserved. If that is the situation all FCs, SCs and STs will get seats everywhere.  SCs and STs are more than that % in different states. </p><p> Then by this time atleast one generation of SC /STs would have educated. </p><p></p><p>With all paratmeters (not only on reservation) BCs  and FCs are enjoying more seats compared to other categories. FC also be because of the background they had and the money power most have.  See also an analysis of the same <a> here </a> on the medical admissions that came in <a href="http://www.hindu.com/2005/07/20/stories/2005072011970100.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a> </p><p></p><p>There are left out people in all these categories take Muslims in BC. Poor people in FC. Women in all categories.  The worst deal is for STs.  I am ignoring all these people for which I dont have an answer but would definitely see there is a better system to follow inclusivity and remove imbalance rather than exclusivity and punishing.</p><p> Read also  <a href="http://msathia.blogspot.com/2007/10/tamil-education-system-boards-questions.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> in sync with what I am saying  and post your thoughts on that too.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-373">August 7, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//a) From which year this was formulated and this is the procedure. Any detail on how this roster works will help as I really have no idea on this system.//</p><p>Ok. I will explain. But before that please read </p><p>http://payanangal.blogspot.com/2008/03/blog-post_8124.html</p><p>and</p><p>http://payanangal.blogspot.com/2008/03/blog-post_22.html</p><p>I will try to complete the post on Rotation Roster soon</p><p></p><p>//b) What about central govt. Is it not an injustice (to any category) if there are (and will be) just few seats are available for promotions and we know the duration of promotion chances in govt? Dont you think it is injustice?//</p><p></p><p>Sure. But the system was intentionally done (like what they do in IIT) to make sure that Candidates from Reserved Category get least chances. :( :( But since it is a two edged sword, it has backfired :) :)</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-374">August 7, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//With all paratmeters (not only on reservation) BCs and FCs are enjoying more seats compared to other categories. //</p><p></p><p>You have not given proof for this. But I have denied this statement with proof</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-375">August 7, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//There are left out people in all these categories take Muslims in BC.//</p><p>That is why DMK has brought quota for them also :) :) :)</p><p></p><p>Look how Tamil Nadu can answer all your questions</p><p></p><p>// Poor people in FC. //</p><p>As I have explained in http://payanangal.blogspot.com/2008/06/500.html poor people need money. Please see the above link where this has been addressed</p><p></p><p>//Women in all categories. //</p><p>Tamil Nadu has 33% reservation for Women in JOBS.</p><p></p><p>In Medical and engineering colleges, even without reservation, women are more than 50 % in medical colleges and about 50 % in engineering</p><p></p><p>//The worst deal is for STs.//</p><p></p><p>Why do you say so. They have 7.5 % reservation in Central Government and 1 % reservation in state government</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-376">August 7, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>Sathiya, please read http://payanangal.blogspot.com/search/label/%E0%AE%87%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%99%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%81 Most of your elementary questions have been answered</p><p></p><p>If you still have any doubts, please ask and we are ready to clarify</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-377">August 7, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>Read this also http://www.ularal.com/express/</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-378">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://msathia.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow'>msathia</a> wrote:</p><p>Bruno,</p><p>After reading all your posts with stats it still justifies my point.  SC/STs are most affected category because of existing system. Even though it is just a sample I am just citing whatever you have posted. </p><p>முற்பட்ட வகுப்பினர் - எப்.சி - 11 % </p><p>பிற்படுத்தப்பட்டவர்கள் - பி.சி - 58.6 % </p><p>கிருத்தவர்கள் - பி.சி.சி - 5.8 % </p><p>முஸ்லிம்கள் - பி.சி.எம் - 4 % </p><p>மிகவும் பிற்படுத்தப்பட்டவர்கள் - எம்.பி.சி - 14 % </p><p>அட்டவனை வகுப்பினர் - எஸ்.சி - 6.4 % </p><p>பழங்குடியினர் - எஸ்.டி - 0.2 %</p><p></p><p>  If you add up the statistics for MBC +BC inlcuding muslims and christians gets  around 81%. </p><p></p><p>2007 வருட தமிழக மருத்துவ பட்டமேற்படிப்பு மதிப்பெண் பட்டியலில் முதல் 100 இடங்களில்</p><p>முற்படுத்தப்பட்ட வகுப்பினர் 9 பேரும்</p><p>பிற்படுத்தப்பட்ட வகுப்பினர் 74 பேரும்</p><p>மிகவும் பிற்படுத்தப்பட்ட வகுப்பினர் 15 பேரும்</p><p>அட்டவனை வகுப்பினர் 3 பேரும் உள்ளனர்</p><p></p><p>அதே போல் 2005 ஆண்டு எம்.பி.பி.எஸ் நுழைவு மதிப்பெண் பட்டியலில் முதல் 430 இடங்களில்</p><p></p><p>முற்படுத்தப்பட்ட வகுப்பினர் 38 பேரும்</p><p>பிற்படுத்தப்பட்ட வகுப்பினர் 321 பேரும்</p><p>மிகவும் பிற்படுத்தப்பட்ட வகுப்பினர் 57 பேரும்</p><p>அட்டவனை வகுப்பினர் 14 பேரும் உள்ளனர்</p><p>MBC+BC = 87%.</p><p></p><p>Is this justified?</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-380">August 8, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>sathia, is it correct to see the % distribution in just first 100 or 430 seats? This is just a rank list not a seat allocation list. The seat for the SC / ST is assured even if they fall outside this merit rank right? You need to see the % of seats in MBBS compared to % of SC/ST population. Guess in Tamilnadu you have around 1500 seats. Bruno, can you tell what % of these seats go to SC / ST? Is it fair compared to the % population of them?</p><p></p><p>bruno posted this stats to prove the point that even without reservation BCs are topping the ranks and hence the allegation that reservation might bring down quality of the students admitted is wrong.</p><p></p><p>bruno, sathia - i am not moderating comments but somehow wordpress keeps placing some of your comments in moderation queue. will try to approve the comments asap it comes</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-381">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//After reading all your posts with stats it still justifies my point.//</p><p></p><p>Oops... Sathiya, You have NOT read my posts :( :( </p><p></p><p>The list given in the GENERAL MERIT LIST which is only 31 %.</p><p></p><p>//SC/STs are most affected category because of existing system. Even though it is just a sample I am just citing whatever you have posted.//</p><p></p><p>I am afraid that you have not understood even the basics regarding the reservation</p><p></p><p>So SCs actually get 6.4 % out of 31 % + their 18 %</p><p></p><p></b>That is MORE than the 18 % of the seats, where as their population is 18 %</b></p><p></p><p>Now can you understand the stupidity  (sorry for this harsh word, but even after me explaining so long, you are still sticking with your wrong stand) of your following statement "SC/STs are most affected category because of existing system"</p><p></p><p><b>Are you ready to accept your mistake and change your notion about reservations</b> or do you still want more proof</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-382">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//Bruno, can you tell what % of these seats go to SC / ST? Is it fair compared to the % population of them?//</p><p></p><p>Yes. </p><p></p><p>For SC. It is MORE than 18 % compared to their population of 18 %</p><p>For ST. It is more than 1 % compared to their population of 1 %</p><p></p><p>--</p><p></p><p>Sathia, please try to understand what is given. If you see with Jaundiced Eyes, every thing will appear yellow only</p><p></p><p>--</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-383">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//அதே போல் 2005 ஆண்டு எம்.பி.பி.எஸ் நுழைவு மதிப்பெண் பட்டியலில் முதல் 430 இடங்களில்</p><p></p><p>முற்படுத்தப்பட்ட வகுப்பினர் 38 பேரும்</p><p>பிற்படுத்தப்பட்ட வகுப்பினர் 321 பேரும்</p><p>மிகவும் பிற்படுத்தப்பட்ட வகுப்பினர் 57 பேரும்</p><p>அட்டவனை வகுப்பினர் 14 பேரும் உள்ளனர்</p><p>MBC+BC = 87%.//</p><p>Unfortunately you have made a BIG Mistake with maths (like what the champions of merit in IIT have done with cut offs). I still believe that your mistake is because <b> you do not any the details about reservation, as you have not read any thing about reservation and seat matrix, but has been brainwashed by Media like Indian Express into believing their biased views</b> But I will not give IIT champions of Merit this benefit of doubt. :) </p><p></p><p>//Is this justified?//</p><p>Is this justified to argue with false data, sathiya :) :) :)</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-384">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>Before believing in what Indian Express and Deccan Chronicle writes about reservation, please read </p><p>http://www.ularal.com/express/</p><p></p><p>http://tinyurl.com/5sbyts</p><p>http://www.hindu.com/2008/07/01/stories/2008070152221100.htm</p><p></p><p>http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Nazi-war-criminal-arrested-near-Goa--airlifted-to-Berlin/329280/</p><p></p><p>http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Jun292008/scroll2008062976017.asp?section=frontpagenews</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-386">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://msathia.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow'>msathia</a> wrote:</p><p>Ravi,</p><p> Exactly, you hit the point. If this is miniscule data then it also proves that with this data you cannot  prove that this is the best system and can be implemented all over India. etc., that Bruno is justifying in his posts.He has derived those justifications in % figures and I just pointed out my justification with that same numbers. </p><p>See <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Caste_and_Community_of_Profile_People_below_povertyline_in_India.PNG" rel="nofollow">this</a>. This is the situation in India. </p><p>The reservation is so confusing in different ways and implemented differently everywhere(Bruno, immediately dont harp on this, you have talked about this. Good, I read your post). I asked a specific question since when the Roster system was introduced in TN govt jobs. What about impact before that?  TN govt is implementing reservation to Muslims now. What about impact before? How it is analysed. There migh tbe flaws in this also. We dont have enough statistics actually to prove all the complexities. That is why I started this discussion with we have to consider all parameters before giving a justification to this system and also said I am digressing from the blog topic. Alas, Bruno has decided that I am stupid and dont know anything and also have a jaundiced eye. If someone has decided on something where is the space for discussions then.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-387">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//If this is miniscule data then it also proves that with this data you cannot prove that this is the best system and can be implemented all over India. etc.,//</p><p></p><p>Sathiya</p><p></p><p>You have misunderstood Ravi</p><p></p><p>The data given (by you) is list of General Turn. But  I have explained very clearly. Please read the FULL posts before letting out your false claims that we cannot prove.</p><p></p><p>We have proved very clearly the benefits of reservation. if you have any specific questions please ask</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-388">August 8, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>//If this is miniscule data//</p><p></p><p>Sathia, i am sorry. I don't think this is miniscule data. TN is the place which has a long history of reservation policies and a I believe MBBS admission scenario can very well represent its effects. I request you to see the data fully not just the first few hundred ranks. When you see the total seats allotted, i don't think SC/ST are affected.</p><p></p><p>Bruno, you both are good friends of mine and I wish and request we discuss this cordially even if we differ / want to differ very much in views. If we disagree, let's gently stop the conversation after we summarize our arguments. Thanks.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-389">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//Exactly, you hit the point. If this is miniscule data then it also proves that with this data you cannot prove that this is the best system and can be implemented all over India. etc., that Bruno is justifying in his posts.//</p><p></p><p>I have given a volume load of data to prove my claims</p><p></p><p>What you did was to take a very small part of that and then try to distort</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-390">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//He has derived those justifications in % figures and I just pointed out my justification with that same numbers.//</p><p></p><p>No.</p><p></p><p>Numbers and Percentage are not the Only issue</p><p></p><p>The data given is the performance in OPEN QUOTA</p><p>But you have concluded it as the Total Seats</p><p></p><p>That is the problem</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-391">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>/See this. This is the situation in India.//</p><p>That is BPL data. That is NOT The situation in WHOLE India. Are you able to understand the differences.</p><p></p><p>You first gave Open List and argued as if it is the WHOLE List</p><p></p><p>You now give BPL List and argue as if it is WHOLE India</p><p></p><p>It is like showing a Splendour and telling that all two wheelers are like that only</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-392">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//The reservation is so confusing in different ways and implemented differently everywhere(Bruno, immediately dont harp on this, you have talked about this. Good, I read your post). //</p><p></p><p>And and in many cases the confusions were made deliberately to reduce the benefits to the reserved category and give more (than justified) seats to general turn. Well documents examples for this are AIIMS, UPSC and now the latest exposure of IIT</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-393">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//I asked a specific question since when the Roster system was introduced in TN govt jobs. //</p><p>I will check and give you the correct date. But what are you trying to prove or disprove with that.</p><p></p><p>//What about impact before that?//</p><p>You can check that yourself</p><p></p><p>// TN govt is implementing reservation to Muslims now. What about impact before? How it is analysed. //</p><p></p><p>Please read the Sachar Committee report. Everything is documented very clearly</p><p></p><p>//There migh tbe flaws in this also.//</p><p>Yes. The way this reservation was implemented in TNPG 2008 created a bit of confusion. It is because of the same reason :( :( I have already told</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-394">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>// We dont have enough statistics actually to prove all the complexities. //</p><p>No. We HAVE statistics</p><p></p><p>//That is why I started this discussion with we have to consider all parameters before giving a justification to this system //</p><p></p><p>Yes.. Excellent. But it was who who took the OC Seats and gave a WRONG CONCLUSION as if it is the TOTAL Seats</p><p></p><p>//and also said I am digressing from the blog topic.//</p><p>OK</p><p></p><p>// Alas, Bruno has decided that I am stupid and dont know anything and also have a jaundiced eye. //</p><p>I have not decided. You read your writings once again and you can see for that with icteric or non icteric eyes</p><p></p><p>//If someone has decided on something where is the space for discussions then.//</p><p></p><p>We have decided that reservation is beneficial to the society based on solid evidence</p><p>If you have evidence, please show</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-395">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//If we disagree, let’s gently stop the conversation after we summarize our arguments. //</p><p></p><p>Reservation is</p><p><b>Good for the Reserved Class</p><p>Bad for the Unreserved Class</b></p><p></p><p>This applied to all reservations, be it caste based, religion based, ex service man quota, women quota etc</p><p></p><p>Is that clear</p><p></p><p>I don't think that there will be any differences over this</p><p></p><p>BUT</p><p></p><p>Inspite of the reservation being detrimental to the unreserved class, reservation is STILL NEEDED because one class cannot continue to go at the cost of other for ever</p><p></p><p>In a bullock cart with two bulls, both need to be equally strong. If one bull is very strong and the other bull very weak, the cart can only move at the speed of the weak bull.</p><p></p><p>When two bulls are equally healthy and if the farmer has 10 kgs of food, he will give each 5 kg</p><p></p><p>When one bull is hale and healthy and the other is sick and the farmer has 10 kilos of food, how should he divide</p><p></p><p>5 kg for healthy bull</p><p>5 kg for sick bull</p><p></p><p>or</p><p></p><p>6 kg for sick bull</p><p>4 kg for healthy bull.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p></p><p>What will you do if you are the farmer in question</p><p></p><p>The government is doing that only in the form of reservations.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-396">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//Now can you understand the stupidity (sorry for this harsh word, but even after me explaining so long, you are still sticking with your wrong stand) of your following statement “SC/STs are most affected category because of existing system”//</p><p></p><p>Sathiya, My comment was specific to the above FALSE line, which was earlier told by you. </p><p></p><p>DO you still think that it is an intelligent statement</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-397">August 8, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>Bruno, sathia</p><p></p><p>the discussion is digressing and for my own understanding i would like to summarize as followed before we continue.</p><p></p><p>* According to my blog post, it proves IIT didn't implement reservation properly. The reservation scheme may be faulty or correct, but they have failed to implement whatever is expected by law. Hope we all agree and condemn it. </p><p></p><p>Now we move on to discuss further points about reservation policy and how we implement it.</p><p></p><p>We all agree we need reservation but Sathia differs in the % allotted for each section. Especially, he feels SC/ST are affected and they should be given more % of seats.</p><p></p><p>Bruno took the TN medical admission scenario. He says SC/STs have their 18% quota matching their population % and in addition they get 6.4% seats more in the Open competition. So they could get more % seats than their % population. </p><p></p><p>Sathia counters with the BPL % of SC/STs are huge so they ought to be given more seats. </p><p></p><p>But Bruno is of the view of poverty and lack of education are two different things, so one cannot base reservation completely on that. </p><p></p><p>Sathia, at this point I need clarification. Supposing, I agree the current scheme is faulty what would be an ideal % scheme that you would propose? Would you give an ideal % breakup and justify it based on stats, evidences? A detailed scheme would be useful.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-399">August 11, 2008</a>, <a href='http://msathia.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow'>msathia</a> wrote:</p><p>Bruno,</p><p></p><p>I am not sure why you got the misconception and trying to prove again again the benefits of reservation + also the number that was cited is for GC category.</p><p>I thought you will directly correlate the same for BC like you did with SC quota (refer your line:"So SCs actually get 6.4 % out of 31 % + their 18 %")</p><p></p><p> To clarify</p><p> 1. I am not denying the benefits of reservation. I Understand the rationale and SUPPORT IT. </p><p> 2. I do understand that numbers are for GC and NOT the overall quota( I did my schooling in govt/aided school and college all across TN, how can anyone escape without understanding)</p><p></p><p></p><p>My only point is BC candidates are overtly favoured. I tried to prove that with the GC split for category.</p><p> I will try to put it again. </p><p> The 31% GC quota adds up like this=3.51(FC) + 25.54(BC)+1.98(SC)+(0.06)(ST)</p><p> The rest 69% is reserved except for FCs.</p><p></p><p>So the 100% adds up like this</p><p></p><p>1. BC's in GC Quota+ BC quota ( 82.4/100 X 31 %(GC) + 50**)= 75.54 % of seats are with BCs</p><p>2. Sc's in GC quota + SC quota( 6% out of 31%+ 18% ) = 19.98 are with SCs</p><p>3. STs  in GC quota + sT quota( 1% out of 31% + 1%)  = 1.06% are with STs</p><p>4. FCs in GC quota = 3.51% are with FCs</p><p></p><p>Hope I am clear and you would still see that 75% are with BCs. I strongly believe that this is not justified because a population of 50% enjoying a 75% seat is not correct then it needs attention to see whether there is a need to reduce the reservation for them or needs a redistribuion of that extra % to SCs and STs. There is a flip side to this I really have doubt all these 75% are really BCs? Are they really Backward Classes? </p><p></p><p> I dont have actual data to show this but No oNE would. </p><p> 1) I have seen a lot of people from same subsect getting coverted into BC categories. There are few castes ( I dont want to name for flaming here) for which one of them is BC and other is Fc.</p><p> 2) FC guys getting BC certificates by changing caste itself.</p><p> 3) BC guys getting MBC certificates.</p><p>The first 2 items are very very prevalant and is a big time business. This infact affect real BC students who deserve a seat. So the only way is to taking the castes which are having an anamoly one by one out of the basket ( after justification obviously) and then redistributing to SC/ST or reducing overall reservation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>**Quota in TN</p><p>- 30 percent for backward classes -,</p><p>- 20 percent for most backward classes - and denotified tribes -,</p><p>- 18 percent for scheduled castes -, and</p><p>- 1 percent for scheduled tribes -.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-400">August 11, 2008</a>, <a href='http://msathia.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow'>msathia</a> wrote:</p><p>Ravi,</p><p></p><p>// According to my blog post, it proves IIT didn’t implement reservation properly. The reservation scheme may be faulty or correct, but they have failed to implement whatever is expected by law. Hope we all agree and condemn it. //</p><p></p><p>Totally Agree and I condemn it as you and Bruno do. </p><p></p><p>Sathia, at this point I need clarification. Supposing, I agree the current scheme is faulty.</p><p> what would be an ideal % scheme that you would propose? </p><p></p><p>// Ravi, There are 2 ways of doing this. One to scrap the entire system and introduce a new one.  The second is to improve the existing system. Latter is more feasible option. But before doing that 1) cleanup on the caste certificates is seriously required. We have to follow state based reservation %s and implementation the one like what you detailed in the blog post or whatever is correct way and agreed upon everywhere. Implementation has to be mandated all across all institutions and government agencies. 2) Once in 5 or 10 years a check on whichever castes(not the categories) can get a significant % of seats everytime has to be moved out of BC list and make them compete in OC and redistribute the % to SC or ST if needed. Reduce the % of reservation every 10 years by 1% or 2%. </p><p></p><p>Would you give an ideal % breakup and justify it based on stats, evidences? A detailed scheme would be useful.</p><p>I am not an expert to give a detailed note on an ideal system but <a href="http://www.sabrang.com/cc/archive/2006/june06/report3.html" rel="nofollow"> here </a> is one which according to me looks more appropriate but all depends on how to implement this also.</p><p></p><p>Thats all I have to add to this discussion.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-401">August 12, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>Sathia, now u have made a lot clearer :)</p><p></p><p>To summarize your argument, BC+MBC  get around 75% seats with their quota+GC seats. If BC+MBC's have improved so much and have merit to compete in GC, why can't they shed some of their reservation % and give it to SC, STs who seem to be suffering with a huge % of them suffering under BPL?</p><p></p><p>Bruno will be the best person to answer :) May be his answer will give me some insight. so will let my stand known after seeing that.</p><p></p><p>I have a doubt: If 69% reserved according to population %, is the remaining 31% of population all FC?? Don't think so. Can someone give split up of TN population by FC, BC, MBC, SC, ST?</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-402">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//My only point is BC candidates are overtly favoured.//</p><p></p><p>Sathia. I guess are are trying to mislead others. Your points that I contended were</p><p></p><p><b>And for SCs and STs no way they are ever going to improve with this system. </b> made on Aug 5, 2008 at 1:14 am</p><p></p><p>and </p><p><b>SC/STs are most affected category because of existing system.</b>  (Aug 8, 2008 at 12:16 am)</p><p></p><p>Why are you now changing that.</p><p></p><p>Please check again. I was countering that only</p><p></p><p>As you have clearly proved,  <b>SC are 19% of population in Tamil Nadu and they get 19 % of seats</b></p><p></p><p>Are you clear with this.</p><p></p><p><b>Do you accept your mistakes atleast now</b></p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-403">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//Hope I am clear and you would still see that 75% are with BCs. I strongly believe that this is not justified because a population of 50% enjoying a 75% seat is not correct then it needs attention to see whether there is a need to reduce the reservation for them or needs a redistribuion of that extra % to SCs and STs. There is a flip side to this I really have doubt all these 75% are really BCs? Are they really Backward Classes?//</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now. You are still committing a lot of mistake and trying to confuse others</p><p></p><p>1. You have added BC+MBC and Call then Just BC</p><p></p><p>2. The population of various castes in Tamil Nadu</p><p>BC	2,87,93,980</p><p>MBC/DC	1,30,24,065</p><p>SC	1,18,57,504</p><p>ST	6,51,321</p><p>Forward Castes	80,78,809</p><p>Total	6,24,05,679</p><p></p><p>Now, this proves that your point of population of 50 % is Wrong</p><p></p><p><b>Do you accept these two mistake</b></p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-404">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>BC		46.14%</p><p>MBC/DC		20.86%</p><p>SC		19.00%</p><p>ST		1.04%</p><p>Forward Castes		12.95%</p><p>Total		100.00%</p><p></p><p>Now</p><p></p><p>SC population is 19 % and they get 19% of seats</p><p></p><p>They are in now way affected</p><p></p><p>MBC Population is 20 % and they get their 20 % of seats</p><p></p><p>BC Population is 46 % (Please note that BC alone is 46 and BC + mBC is 66) and they are reserved only 30 %</p><p></p><p><b>Their reservation is 16 % less than their population percentage</b></p><p></p><p>Is this clear</p><p></p><p><b>But them getting more seats is by their virtue of performance in the Geneneral Category and not by reservation</b></p><p></p><p>Is this clear</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-406">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//1) cleanup on the caste certificates is seriously required. //</p><p></p><p>Please note that there are enough safeguard in the system already and it is very easy to get a forged Community certificate, but very very difficult to use that</p><p></p><p>Please see my links above</p><p></p><p>//We have to follow state based reservation %s and implementation the one like what you detailed in the blog post or whatever is correct way and agreed upon everywhere.//</p><p></p><p>That is why we have </p><p>18 % reservation for SC in TN</p><p>15 % reservation for ST in India</p><p></p><p>1 % reservation for ST in TN</p><p>7.5 % reservation for ST in India</p><p></p><p>Is this clear</p><p></p><p>So</p><p></p><p>what you are trying to suggest are ALREADY done and they are working :) :) :)</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-407">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//"http://www.sabrang.com/cc/archive/2006/june06/report3.html"//</p><p></p><p>Please note that this is not the IDEAL break up what Ravi has asked</p><p></p><p>And something else</p><p></p><p>The method given out by that aggarwal was first discussed by me in my blog and RxPG Online and he shamelessly lifted that from me in 2006, gave a name MIRAA and published it as his own. </p><p></p><p>Please check my english blog :) :) :)</p><p></p><p>Any how That is not what Ravi has asked</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-408">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//Sathia, now u have made a lot clearer :)//</p><p></p><p>... with wrong data and wrong interpretation of data :) :) :)</p><p></p><p>Hope the situation is actually clear with the correct data</p><p></p><p>And </p><p></p><p>Once again, i have to thank sathia for himself accepting that SCs do not suffer as they get 19 % of seats</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-409">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>// To summarize your argument, BC+MBC have a 50% population percentage but get around 75% seats with their quota+GC seats. //</p><p></p><p>NO. The population (BC + MBC ) is 66 % and they around 70 % of seats</p><p> </p><p>//If BC's have improved so much and have merit to compete in GC, why can't they shed some of their reservation % and give it to SC, STs who seem to be suffering with a huge % of them suffering under BPL?//</p><p>They are getting their 19 % . So no need to shed this</p><p></p><p>// Bruno will be the best person to answer :) May be his answer will give me some insight. so will let my stand known after seeing that.//</p><p></p><p>Hope this is clear</p><p> </p><p>// I have a doubt: If 69% reserved according to population %, is the remaining 31% of population all FC??//</p><p></p><p>No. I think I have explained above</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-410">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>From 1951 onwards, Tamil Nadu's Backward Classes enjoyed 25 percent reservation.</p><p></p><p>In 1969, the first Tamil Nadu State Backward Classes Commission, with A.N. Sattanathan as chairman, recommended a separate 16 percent reservation for the Most Backward Classes and 17 percent for the Backward Classes.</p><p></p><p>In 1971, the DMK government hiked the BC quota from 25 to 31 percent and the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes quota to 18 percent.</p><p></p><p>In 1980, the M.G. Ramachandran government increased the BC quota from 31 percent to 50 percent.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-411">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>On the direction of the Supreme Court in W.P. Nos. 4995–1997/1980 and 402/1981, the government constituted the Tamil Nadu Second Backward Classes Commission under the Chairmanship of Thiru J.A. Ambasankar, a former IAS officer.  After considering the recommendations of this Commission orders were issued for the continuance of 68% reservation in the State.</p><p>People who read this article also read</p><p></p><p>Sanity in US, but at what cost?</p><p></p><p>Karmic masala – a divorce, a hanging and a flavoured condom</p><p></p><p>While Micro is still 'soft' and Yahoo! plays hard to get</p><p></p><p>What it takes to say sorry</p><p></p><p>The Big Bee</p><p></p><p>After a detailed and careful consideration of the representations received from certain sections of Backward Classes stating that they were not adequately represented in Public Services and in educational institutions, the Government have issued orders in March 1989 to provide 20% reservation for Most Backward Classes and Denotified Communities from out of the 50% reservation them available for all Backward Classes leaving the remaining 30% for Backward Classes. Now, the reservation is distributed among the various categories of communities as given below:-</p><p></p><p>        Scheduled Castes / Scheduled Tribes                     18%</p><p>        Most Backward Classes / Denotified Communities  20%</p><p>        Backward Classes                                                 30%</p><p>        Open Competition                                                32%</p><p></p><p>Based on the directions of High Court in W.A.No.1692 of 1987, the State Government issued orders in June 1990 providing one percent separate reservation for Scheduled Tribes taken from 32 percent reservation then available for open competition. The quantum of reservation provided to various categories are:-</p><p></p><p>         Scheduled Castes                                               18%</p><p>         Scheduled Tribes                                                 1%</p><p>         Most Backward Classes/Denotified Communities  20%</p><p>         Backward Classes                                                30%</p><p>         Open Competition                                               31%</p><p></p><p>Thus, the 69% reservation is in vogue in the state since 1990.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-412">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>Ravi, Sathiya, Tell me whether you can understand this</p><p></p><p>Which Community will get MORE Seats if Creamy layers are excluded from BC - BC </p><p></p><p>Which Community will get LESS Seats if Creamy layers are excluded from BC - FC</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-413">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>If you cannot understand the above line (which look very very odd), please tell me and I will explain</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-414">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>Question</p><p></p><p>The question is why hasn’t this happened in TN in so many years (other than the Vanniar agitation)? Why is it that other OBCs are tolerating the Mudaliar/Nadar/Thevar/Kaunder stranglehold on OBC benefits?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Answer</p><p></p><p>Because NO SINGLE GROUP is marginalised in Tamil Nadu…..</p><p></p><p>It does not mean that EVERY ONE is affluent, but if you take 100 IAS officers, you can see representation from ALL COMMUNITIES….</p><p></p><p>The same with doctors, Police, Lawyers etc….</p><p></p><p>Thus there is no “unrest”…</p><p></p><p>The only time there was unrest was in the late 80s.. and that too was beautifully solved by splitting the BC into BC and MBC……</p><p></p><p>That is how the dravidian leaders managed it….</p><p></p><p>For example, if MGR or Kalaignar had promised SC Status for Vanniars, that would have meant a clash between Vanniars and Parayars… But they just split the BC Quota into two - 3 parts for BC (150 Castes) and 2 parts for MBC (about 100 Castes)…</p><p></p><p>//Why is it that other OBCs are tolerating the Mudaliar/Nadar/Thevar/Kaunder stranglehold on OBC benefits? //</p><p></p><p><b>There is NO Strangle hold at all… The strangle hold is an impression created by few media with vested interests…….</b></p><p></p><p>Every community has guys who are below poverty line and every community has millionaires</p><p></p><p>Every community has IAS Officers, Doctors, Engineers, Lawyers, and of course politicians</p><p></p><p><b>Of course, there are few selected communities like Anglo Indians, Saurashtrans etc who may not be represented politically, but they have 100 % literacy rates and manage to get into good jobs…</b></p><p></p><p><b>Nadars, for example include the printers and mill owners of Sivakasi and also the guy who climbs palmyra tree for Rs 40 per day…. </b>The same with fishermen community.,… the same with Thevars…</p><p></p><p>Thus NO community is marginalised in tamil nadu… and every one knows this</p><p></p><p><b>This social equality has been brought on by the reservation, primary education and social revolution over the past 80 years </b></p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-415">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>Please see this also</p><p></p><p>http://bruno.penandscale.com/2006/05/69-reservation-in-tamil-nadu.html</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-416">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>Also this</p><p></p><p>http://bruno.penandscale.com/2006/06/idiotic-questions-against-reservations.html</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-417">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>BCs and MBCs of Tamilnadu are together equivalent to the "Other Backward Castes", as they are referred to in the rest of the country. </p><p></p><p><b>The most obvious observation from the data above is that the percentage of reservations is only equal to or lower than the percentage of the group in the overall population. </b></p><p></p><p>So the reservation system is only trying to bring about proportional representation in educational institutions. It does not result in a reverse-discrimination (which would mean BCs get more than their proportional share in order to right historical wrongs), as many people claim. FCs, who form the "others", still get the bulk of the 31% open-quota seats even though their population percentage is only 13%.</p><p></p><p>If BCs get a little more seats, it is because of their improved performance.</p><p></p><p><b>If FCs can score the first 500 ranks in TN, then BC will get only 30 % of seats (compared to their population of 46%) and FC can get 31 % compared to their population of 13 %</b></p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-418">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>The problem is that though many FC candidates score <b>lower than even the reserved-category cut-off marks</b>, they still blame reservations!.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-419">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>Ravi,</p><p></p><p>Your Question http://payanangal.blogspot.com/2008/05/blog-post.html?showComment=1210002540000#c3806143186015520731</p><p></p><p>Answer by a FC </p><p>http://www.aidindia.org/main/content/view/315/1/</p><p></p><p>Overall, the experience with reservation has been very positive, and that is why there is wide-spread support for it in the state. <b>The government health-care system in Tamilnadu is better than most other states, and one reason has been the quality doctors that the system produces, a factor attributed to reservations. </b>Many of them also opt to serve in rural areas. Not surprisingly, the TN chapter of the Indian Medical Association supports quotas for the OBCs.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-420">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>The initial debate is now settled</p><p></p><p>Any doubts and I am ready to answer</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-421">August 12, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>Bruno, i seem to get all except this</p><p></p><p>//Which Community will get MORE Seats if Creamy layers are excluded from BC - BC</p><p></p><p>Which Community will get LESS Seats if Creamy layers are excluded from BC - FC//</p><p></p><p>How is that BC benefit irrespective of whether creamy layer is there or not? and if so, do you mean to say there is no use removing creamy layer to reduce benefits for BC and transfer them to other communities?</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-422">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>//How is that BC benefit irrespective of whether creamy layer is there or not? //</p><p></p><p>Good Question Ravi,</p><p></p><p>Let me explain.</p><p></p><p>Assume a BC Candidate, Mr.X  with General Rank 450 in Tamil Nadu Medical Admissions Merit List. His father is an IAS Officer working as Secretary to Government. Right Now he has got a BC Certificate. </p><p></p><p>See here</p><p>http://www.targetpg.net/2008/06/tamil-nadu-mbbsbds-course-2008-2009.html</p><p></p><p>When our guy walks in the counselling Room on 5th, in all probability, there will be Seats for General Category in Dharmapuri Medical College (the newly opened, while there are seats in BC Quota in MMC, Stanley and Kilpauk)</p><p></p><p>Which will he take. ???</p><p></p><p>He will of course take the seat in BC Quota</p><p></p><p>--</p><p></p><p>Now if the Creamy layer is excluded, our Dr.X can compete only in OC. </p><p></p><p>So he will take the seat in Dharmapuri under OC</p><p></p><p>There by the BC Seat in MMC can be taken by a Candidate from Backward Caste (who does not come under Creamy Layer) and hence can apply under BC Quota also</p><p></p><p>So</p><p></p><p>The actual Number of seats taken by Candidates from Backward Classes will increase when Creamy Layer Concept is introduced.</p><p></p><p>In reality --&gt; this creamy layer exclusion is a big setback for Forward Castes</p><p></p><p><b>But why did they argue for that so long in court --&gt; Because they wanted all those who have completed SCHOOL Education to be classified as Creamy Layer --&gt; there by effectively nullifying the OBC Quotas in Medical, Engineering and other colleges</b></p><p></p><p>--</p><p></p><p>Once the court made clear that School Education (of the concerned person) can never be the criteria, all the fanfare associated with Creamy layer suddenly stopped :) :) </p><p></p><p>ஹா ஹா ஹா</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-423">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>Clarification</p><p></p><p>Whether there is a Creamy Layer Exclusion or not</p><p></p><p>The Number of Seats taken by Candidates with BC Certificate will be the same</p><p></p><p>But, if Creamy Layer is excluded</p><p>The Number of Seats taken by Candidates with BC Certificate will be the same (Say X)</p><p>The number of seats taken by Candidates from Backward Classes will increase (X + Number of candidates who though from Backward Community has to compete in OC only)</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-424">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>Ravi,</p><p></p><p>In comments 60 and 61, read BC as "BC+MBC"</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-427">August 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://bruno.penandscale.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Bruno</a> wrote:</p><p>அதாவது வட்டாச்சியர் அலுவலக தட்டச்சரின் மகன் தட்டச்சர் வேலைக்கு பொது பிரிவில் தான் போட்டியிட வேண்டும். ஆனால் அதே பையன் மருத்துவ நுழைவு தேர்வு அல்லது ஐ.ஏ.ஏஸ் என்றால் இடப்பங்கீடு வழங்கலாம்</p><p></p><p>இது தான் நான் பல வருடங்களாக கூறி வருவது</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/reservation/#comment-533">September 16, 2008</a>, <a href='http://www.payanangal.in' rel='external nofollow'>புருனோ</a> wrote:</p><p>http://in.tamil.yahoo.com/News/National/0809/16/1080916001_1.htm</p><p></p><p>இது இப்படி நடக்கும் என்று தான் எங்களுக்கு தெரியுமே</p><p></p><p>அதனால் தானே </p><p></p><p>In reality –&gt; this creamy layer exclusion is a big setback for Forward Castes என்று இருந்தாலும் அவர்கள் கிருமி லேயர் வேண்டும் என்று கேட்டது</p><p></p><p>அது சரி</p><p></p><p>நிரப்பப்படாத இடங்களில்  முற்பட்ட வகுப்பு மாணவர்கள் அனைவரும் சேர்த்துக்கொள்ளப்படுவார்களா அல்லது முற்பட்ட வகுப்பினரில் கிருமி லேயர் அல்லாதவர்கள் மட்டும் தானா</p><p></p><p>இந்த கேள்விக்கு வரும் விடை சுவாரசியமானதாக இருக்கும் :) :)</p></li></ul>
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		<title>Twitter wisdom</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How to find new people to follow in twitter?
0. Visit your friend&#8217;s profile pages and check whom they are following.
1. Check to whom your friends are sending @ replies often. These are active, interesting people.
2. Now, Go to http://search.twitter.com and search for things of your interest. Select profiles with interesting content.
From all the above profiles,
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>How to find new people to follow in twitter?</strong></p>
<p>0. Visit your friend&#8217;s profile pages and check whom they are following.</p>
<p>1. Check to whom your friends are sending @ replies often. These are active, interesting people.</p>
<p>2. Now, Go to <a href="http://search.twitter.com">http://search.twitter.com</a> and search for things of your interest. Select profiles with interesting content.</p>
<p>From all the above profiles,</p>
<p>* Select profiles with followers / following ratio 1 or more. The more the better.</p>
<p>* Select profiles with lot of links in the updates. Links mean information.</p>
<p><strong>Remember:</strong> <strong>The number of your followers isn&#8217;t that important</strong>. The number of people you follow, their quality of tweets is important. The more the people and better they are, you are better informed.</p>
<p><strong>Twitter Time management:</strong></p>
<p>Twitter failed to give a statutory warning that it is highly addictive. I am already seeing many of the reticent bloggers spending a lot of time in Twitter. True that twitter induces conversation by design. But still&#8230;</p>
<p>* Don&#8217;t keep a Twitter Desktop / browser app or Twitter website open all the time. The notifications, refreshings will suck your time.</p>
<p>* Switch off the followers notifications or send it to your secondary email.</p>
<p>* If you get annoyed by @ replies between your friends, you can switch them off from the settings. But these replies only make the place lively, informative, interesting. You will find new people to follow.</p>
<p>* Do add a clear profile picture. Helps your friends to identify you easily.</p>
<p>* It&#8217;s best open once / twice a day, read the tweets, reply and close it down.</p>
<p>* Read the tweets in reverse chronological order. It makes more sense.</p>
<p>* Don&#8217;t flood with tweets. Anything more than 10 a day, people are starting to get annoyed.</p>
<p><strong>Twitter as Microblogging platform:</strong></p>
<p>If you are seriously considering Twitter as a Microblogging platform and caring less and less for your regular blogs, think twice now. I find Twitter great to stay in touch with friends, get help, social networking but I rate it very poorly as a Microblogging platform. Microblogging is not just being about short.</p>
<p><strong>Why?</strong></p>
<p>* Twitter is unreliable. Goes down many times. I would like to blog when I like not when Twitter is fine.</p>
<p>* You don&#8217;t own the content. Right now, you can&#8217;t export your tweets to another service.</p>
<p>* Content accessibility is blocked in many ways. They cut down the archives after mere 5-10 pages. I have 1000+ tweets gone for ever <img src='http://microblog.ravidreams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>* Your readers need to register, understand twitter before they respond to you.</p>
<p>* Comments / replies are spread over and don&#8217;t make sense many times. It is confusing for which tweet you get the reply.</p>
<p>* The 140 character limit can be unnecessarily limiting.</p>
<p>* The TinyURLs don&#8217;t help you understand where you are gonna land.</p>
<p>* No way to find related content as there are no tags and categories.</p>
<p>* No audio, visual treat as you can&#8217;t embed anything.</p>
<p>* Very Poor RSS feed service.</p>
<p><strong>So, what is Twitter best for?</strong></p>
<p>* To help, respond to your friends with @ replies. Whether you like it or not, the crowd is there. Stay in touch.</p>
<p>* Ask for help. Twitter crowd by design and habit, responds faster than light.</p>
<p>* Anything you would like to write but would not care to archive.</p>
<p>* To follow news, trends.</p>
<p>* Shed your online image and be just friends with people.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s all the twitter wisdom I got in 8 months of tweeting !</p>
<p>Also see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.robojenny.com/2008/07/twitter-etiquette-dos-and-donts.html">Twitter etiquette - Do&#8217;s and Don&#8217;ts</a></p>
<hr><h2>8 Comments</h2> <ul><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/twitter-wisdom/#comment-328">July 23, 2008</a>, <a href='http://snapjudge.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/%e0%ae%9f%e0%af%8d%e0%ae%b5%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%9f%e0%af%8d%e0%ae%9f%e0%ae%b0%e0%af%8d-%e0%ae%8e%e0%ae%b3%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%af-%e0%ae%85%e0%ae%b1%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%ae%e0' rel='external nofollow'>Balaji</a> wrote:</p><p>Excellent!!! Really concise stuff :)</p><p></p><p>---<i>Don’t keep a Twitter Desktop / browser app or Twitter website open all the time. The notifications, refreshings will suck your time.---</i></p><p></p><p>True. But, use something like Twhirl and 'Pause Notifications'.</p><p></p><p>This helps two purposes:</p><p>1. Gets an archive all of you following</p><p>2. Ability to mark faves, reply etc for old tweets</p><p></p><p>--------------</p><p></p><p>---<i>Don’t flood with tweets. Anything more than 10 a day, people are starting to get annoyed.</i>---</p><p></p><p>நீங்களுமா ;)</p><p></p><p>--------------</p><p></p><p><i>---I have 1000+ tweets gone for ever----</i></p><p></p><p>No. certainly not according to <a href="http://twitter.com/Carmillia/statuses/861295883" rel="nofollow">Twitter / Carmillia: @ev Thanks for answering my...</a></p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p><i>---Comments / replies are spread over and don’t make sense many times. It is confusing for which tweet you get the reply.---</i></p><p></p><p>True. The reply shd have some kind of indication of the subject. மொட்டையாக 'ஏன்/எப்படி' போன்ற கேள்விகளைத் தவிர்க்கலாம்.</p><p></p><p>எல்லா மறுமொழிக்கும் :) சிரிப்பான் போடுவதைத் தவிர்க்கலாம். அவர்களின் பிறிதொரு மறுமொழிக்கு பொருத்தமான சிந்தனை எழுந்தால் அப்பொழுது மட்டும் பதில் பொடும் வழக்கத்தை வெச்சுக்கலாம்.)</p><p></p><p>------------------------</p><p></p><p>----<b>Shed your online image and be just friends with people.</b>----</p><p></p><p>Soooooper!!! 101% agreed :D</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/twitter-wisdom/#comment-333">July 23, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>bala, regarding the tweets gone for ever, i know they r there in the database and may be accessible sometime later when twitter improves. but, right now, i have wanted 2 access my/friend's previous tweets and felt helpless.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/twitter-wisdom/#comment-334">July 23, 2008</a>, <a href='http://snapjudge.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/%e0%ae%9f%e0%af%8d%e0%ae%b5%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%9f%e0%af%8d%e0%ae%9f%e0%ae%b0%e0%af%8d-%e0%ae%8e%e0%ae%b3%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%af-%e0%ae%85%e0%ae%b1%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%ae%e0' rel='external nofollow'>Balaji</a> wrote:</p><p>Does summize search help (if you remember the exact words they typed --&gt; add it to their name and search or an @username with keywords might also land you in the tweet?)</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/twitter-wisdom/#comment-335">July 23, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>even when i remembered the keywords summize didn't bring the results sometimes :(</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/twitter-wisdom/#comment-337">July 23, 2008</a>, Balaji wrote:</p><p>Uh... oh :X</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/twitter-wisdom/#comment-338">July 23, 2008</a>, <a href='http://www.robojenny.com' rel='external nofollow'>Jenny</a> wrote:</p><p>I would also add that if there's a specific topic you're interested in, to "track" that topic (http://help.twitter.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&amp;id=79).</p><p></p><p>And if you're worried about clicking on random tinyurls, you can always visit preview.tinyurl.com/whatever to see where it leads.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/twitter-wisdom/#comment-340">July 24, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>Thanks for the tip Jenny. I am adding your twitter etiquette post link in the article.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/twitter-wisdom/#comment-354">July 29, 2008</a>, <a href='http://mayuonline.com/eblog' rel='external nofollow'>mayooresan</a> wrote:</p><p>Interesting post...</p><p></p><p>mm.. as I said in my post earlier, Twitter Fox is very helpful but addictive in other hand. Now can't browse without it.</p><p></p><p>Better not give try to those stuffs, once you go in there is no way out :(</p></li></ul>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever you have a problem with your WordPress blog,</p>
<p>0. Don&#8217;t Panic. So far as your WordPress database and wp-contents folder is fine, you are fine.</p>
<p>1. Switch to the default WordPress template and deactivate all plugins. If you are fine now, switch to another trouble free template or activate the plugins one by one to find out the culprit.</p>
<p>If you still have problem, it is possibly a WordPresss problem. Then, search <a href="http://wordpress.org/support/">WordPress support forum</a> for solutions and ask a new question if needed.</p>
<p>2. Ask your friends using WordPress for help.</p>
<p>3. Create a test installation of WordPress in another server and make sure it isn&#8217;t a hosting problem.</p>
<p>4. Try all new WordPress upgrades at the above test installation before you try with your regular blogs.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[Things I love with Ubuntu:
* Speed - No need to go for a coffee after switching on  
* Security - No virus.
* Stability - Never hangs.
* Regular updates - You get the latest OS in the field for free every six months. Even applications update themselves.
* Connectivity - Internet connection speed is always faster [...]]]></description>
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<p>* Speed - No need to go for a coffee after switching on <img src='http://microblog.ravidreams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>* Security - No virus.</p>
<p>* Stability - Never hangs.</p>
<p>* Regular updates - You get the latest OS in the field for free every six months. Even applications update themselves.</p>
<p>* Connectivity - Internet connection speed is always faster compared to Windows. Works even when Windows can&#8217;t detect the connection.</p>
<p>* Support - The Ubuntu user community is awesome. It teaches me patiently like i am a kindergarten kid <img src='http://microblog.ravidreams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>* Philosophy - I like the Ubuntu brand name and the philosophy behind it. You make me and I make you and we make the community <img src='http://microblog.ravidreams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>

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		<title>How to get more visitors for your websites?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. First let know your friends, relatives, contacts about your site. Mail them once.
2. Submit to your site to popular search engines like Yahoo, Google, MSN and web directories in your field. Link to your new site from your already existing sites. Or request your friends to link to you. Make sure, your site is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. First let know your friends, relatives, contacts about your site. Mail them once.</p>
<p>2. Submit to your site to popular search engines like Yahoo, Google, MSN and web directories in your field. Link to your new site from your already existing sites. Or request your friends to link to you. Make sure, your site is visible in the search engines ASAP. Learn Basic search engine optimisation tips. (Some <a href="http://blog.ravidreams.net/%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8A%E0%AE%B1%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D/">SEO tips in Tamil</a> here)</p>
<p>3. Comment / participate in similar websites / forums. Leave honest and useful thoughts there and try helping people with your expertise. Be known for activities, thoughts, input that you leave in other website. Become a source of information. Be part of a community. People will return the favor.</p>
<p>4. Give quality content. Don&#8217;t write for the sake of updating. You will have to read, learn a lot in your area of interest and spend time polishing your articles. Don&#8217;t cheat your visitors with misleading titles, unfulfilled promises.</p>
<p>5. Give full feeds. Will get you loyal visitors.</p>
<p>6. Respect your visitors even if they don&#8217;t agree with you.</p>

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		<title>Simple solutions for Global warming</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravi</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Global warming may be complicated. But some simple steps from everyone can contribute a lot.
* Consume less of anything. Lesser consumption leads to lesser material need, lesser energy needs, lesser Green house gases release. In a way, ancient Indian life is sustainable by philosophy as it advocated a simple living.
* Waste less. MaKe full use [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global warming may be complicated. But some simple steps from everyone can contribute a lot.</p>
<p>* Consume less of anything. Lesser consumption leads to lesser material need, lesser energy needs, lesser Green house gases release. In a way, ancient Indian life is sustainable by philosophy as it advocated a simple living.</p>
<p>* Waste less. MaKe full use of anything you have. Try recycling.</p>
<p>* Close the water tap when unnecessary.</p>
<p>* Open your windows. use natural light. Switch off the extra / unwanted lights. Supersitions like Goddess Lakshmi won&#8217;t come to your home if வாசப்படி விளக்கு is not lit is not true <img src='http://microblog.ravidreams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>* Use your foot or bicycle for nearby distances. For long distances, prefer Public transport which require less fuel per person.</p>
<hr><h2>4 Comments</h2> <ul><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/simple-solutions-for-global-warming/#comment-449">August 25, 2008</a>, Nirmala wrote:</p><p>Here are few more Environment and Energy saving tips.</p><p></p><p>1. Avoid using plastic bags - use cloth bags while going for shopping as plastics are non biodegradable, hence they do not decompose and it takes 500 to 1000 years to decompose.</p><p></p><p>2. Turn off the tap when brushing and soaping your hands which can save around 16 litres of water a day (Calculate for an year..!!??)</p><p></p><p>3. Refrigerator uses huge amount of energy. Do not open refrigerator door regularly.</p><p></p><p>4. Tube lights and bulbs which are dirty can consume more energy and can absorb 50% of the light. Dust them regularly.</p><p></p><p>5. Plant shade trees near your house - this can help greatly reduce the need to cool a home and thereby reducing the usage of Air conditioner</p><p></p><p>6. Use rechargeable batteries - this can help reduce costs and they are also cheaper in the long run</p><p></p><p>7. Buy local produce - It conserves the fuel, cuts pollution and boosts local economy</p><p></p><p>8. Keep your car's tire inflated - it can improve the fuel effeciency of your car </p><p></p><p>9. Drive at a moderate speed as to 50-60 mph which means your emissions will be the lowest. </p><p></p><p>10. Do not cut trees - as one tree can store 13 pounds of carbon. When being cut can lead to more carbon emissions.</p><p></p><p>11. Use handkerchief instead of tissue paper - as it takes 6,000,000 trees to make one year's worth of tissues for the world.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/simple-solutions-for-global-warming/#comment-451">August 25, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>Nirmala, that's lot of info. you sacrificed a post in ur blog :)</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/simple-solutions-for-global-warming/#comment-454">August 28, 2008</a>, Nirmala wrote:</p><p>Pleasure is mine Ravi. </p><p></p><p>I believe many might have heard about a well renowned architect called as Laurie Baker. </p><p></p><p>He is a British born Indian architect - who chose to live in Kerala since 1945. He is known for his cost effective as well as ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY EFFICIENT architecture.</p><p></p><p>His official website (http://lauriebaker.net/) provides information about his life, his principles and his belief's towards architecture. He felt that a house need not be build with high worth materials but with low cost materials which are available locally. He simply hated the concept of plasters and paints. His houses were made of locally burnt bricks and mud walls. His work in Kerala has brought a new life style to the city. He felt that a house can be built without destroying the trees. Hence, most of the houses built by him possess that nature look (one might get the feel of living with nature). </p><p></p><p>A typical house which he constructed consisted of a Indian Solar hot water system which will be mounted on the roof. A biogas tank will be providing fuel for the cooking requirements. Discarded fruits and vegetable matter from the kitchen will provide fuel for the biogas tank. Waste water will be treated onsite using certain technology which is directed into the biogas tank and purified water returned to the agricultural use.</p><p></p><p>Amazing construction technique. Astonished after reading it..!!!</p><p></p><p>Hope this will be helpful to be posted in this section.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/simple-solutions-for-global-warming/#comment-456">August 29, 2008</a>, Nirmala wrote:</p><p>Many might have heard people around speaking about Global Warming but may not understand what it really means and its consequences and how they are formed. Before speaking about the simple steps to avoid Global Warming, I believe it is mandatory to understand what is Global Warming and their effects. Here is a short description about the same. </p><p></p><p>What is Global Warming?</p><p>Global Warming is the observed and projected increases in the average temperature of Earth’s atmosphere and oceans. </p><p></p><p>How is Global Warming formed? </p><p>Global Warming is caused due to the formation of Greenhouse Gases. </p><p></p><p>In a normal situation, when sunlight reaches earth surface some of its radiations are absorbed by Earth to warm the Earth while the remaining radiations get reflected back into the space. </p><p></p><p>But in case of Global Warming situation, when sunlight reaches the earth’s surface some of the radiations are absorbed as usual. But the remaining radiation while trying to reflect back into the space are caught by the GREENHOUSE gases which absorb these radiations and makes the Earth more warmer thereby leading to Global Warming.</p><p></p><p>The Greenhouse gases act like a mirror and reflect back to the Earth a part of heat radiation which increases the Earth temperature. The higher the concentration of green house gases like CO2 in the atmosphere, the more heat energy is being reflected back to Earth. The emission of CO2 into the environment mainly from burning of fossil fuels (oil, gas, petrol, kerosene etc). </p><p></p><p>The major natural GREENHOUSE gases are water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane and ozone. </p><p></p><p>In my coming posts, we can understand how this Global Warming is a cyclic process, how it affects the environment and what are the simple ways to stop producing greenhouse gases. </p><p></p><p>Regards</p><p>Nirmala</p></li></ul>
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		<title>How to save money when you travel abroad</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravi</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Ask your friends to pay all your bills right from booking the air ticket, pick up, local expenditures. They will try all the cheapest ways possible with their local knowledge. Though you may pay back, they will think twice before they draw their own money and would think not to burden you with too [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Ask your friends to pay all your bills right from booking the air ticket, pick up, local expenditures. They will try all the cheapest ways possible with their local knowledge. Though you may pay back, they will think twice before they draw their own money and would think not to burden you with too many expenses.</p>
<p>2. Don&#8217;t change to local currency. When you have money in hand, you go on a spending spree. Depend on your friends for purchases, so you will think twice before bothering your friend.</p>
<p>3. Visit only those places which don&#8217;t charge an entry ticket. If you have to visit, let it be world renowned. European cities promote tourism heavily and market even stupid museums, attractions with an entry ticket.</p>
<p>4. Find friends enthusiastic in traveling. Package deals are cheaper when you are a group. example: EuroPass for train travel.</p>
<p>5. Keep watching for tourist offers. Ask the Chinese guys <img src='http://microblog.ravidreams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> They are the best source of info for cheap travel.</p>
<p>6. Take the Bus trip for short distances. It&#8217;s tiring but cheap.</p>
<p>7. Stay in Youth Hostels. They have sufficient comfort.</p>
<p>8. Plan in advance. Rush for the tickets.</p>
<p>9. Have one meal in the finest restaurant to know the local cuisine. Other times, stick to the cheap Fast Food restaurants or eat in your friend&#8217;s home <img src='http://microblog.ravidreams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This is how poor students roam around <img src='http://microblog.ravidreams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Can you share more tips with me?</p>
<hr><h2>1 Comments</h2> <ul><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/how-to-save-money-when-you-travel-abroad/#comment-379">August 8, 2008</a>, <a href='http://msathia.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow'>msathia</a> wrote:</p><p>//Chinese guys  They are the best source of info for cheap travel.//</p><p> Interesting to know this is same in Europe too.</p><p> Consider this: Boston to NY by your own car 4-5 hours. By bus one way 100$. FungWa travels from China town to and fro 25$ :-))</p><p></p><p>Hostel staying is not possible for working class people, I think. So my 2 cents apart from your points applicable to US.</p><p> 1. Plan properly before you travel. Book hotels early.</p><p>2. Do research, decide, and then just stick to travel plan. Dont try to clutter your travel with lots of places in short time span. You will loose more money in travel </p><p>3. Do a cost benefit analysis in case of Taxi Vs Renting a car. sometimes Taxis work out cheaper.</p><p>4. Carry chargers,video storage accessories, batteries. Avoid buying them in tourist spots.</p></li></ul>
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		<title>A for Apple</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravi</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Firefox 3 Location bar has new feature: It recognizes what address you want to visit when you start typing few letters. It is based on your frequency and recency of visit. I realized how each alphabet has been associated with some regular sites we visit. It&#8217;s like saying A for Apple, G for Google.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firefox 3 Location bar has new feature: It recognizes what address you want to visit when you start typing few letters. It is based on your frequency and recency of visit. I realized how each alphabet has been associated with some regular sites we visit. It&#8217;s like saying A for Apple, G for Google.</p>
<p>Here is my list based on regular sites I visit. Missing letters just had irrelevant recent visits:</p>
<p>B  for <a href="http://behindwoods.com">BehindWoods</a></p>
<p>D for <a href="http://dinamalar.com">Dinamalar</a></p>
<p>G for <a href="http://google.com">Google</a></p>
<p>I for <a href="http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/">IndiaGlitz</a></p>
<p>M for <a href="http://maatru.net">Maatru!</a></p>
<p>N for <a href="http://nonoh.net">Nonoh</a></p>
<p>O for <a href="http://orkut.com">Orkut</a></p>
<p>R for <a href="http://reader.google.com">Google reader</a></p>
<p>S for <a href="http://sify.com/movies/tamil/">Sify Tamil Movies</a></p>
<p>T for <a href="http://twitter.com">Twitter</a></p>
<p>V for <a href="http://viakatan.com">Vikatan</a></p>
<p>Y for <a href="http://youtube.com">YouTube</a></p>
<p>I have never played Tagging. But would like now in hope of finding new sites.</p>
<p>I am Tagging</p>
<p>* <a href="http://mayuonline.com">Mayooresan</a></p>
<p>* <a href="http://snapjudge.wordpress.com">Boston Bala</a></p>
<p>* <a href="http://shankarganesh.com">Shankar Ganesh</a></p>
<p>Rule:</p>
<p>* The Tag name is A for Apple</p>
<p>* Give preference for regualr sites</p>
<p>* Ignore your own blogs, sites.</p>
<p>* Tag 3 People.</p>
<p>A for Apple articles from friends:</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://snapjudge.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/a-for-apple-tag-by-ravishankar/">Boston Bala</a></p>
<p>2. <a href="http://surveysan.blogspot.com/2008/07/tagging-continues.html">சர்வேசன்</a></p>
<p>3. <a href="http://sandanamullai.blogspot.com/2008/07/alibaba-babycenter-chetana-sil-esnips.html">சந்தனமுல்லை</a></p>
<p>4. <a href="http://sirumuyarchi.blogspot.com/2008/07/z-zapak.html">கயல்விழி முத்துலெட்சுமி</a></p>
<p>5. <a href="http://engineer2207.blogspot.com/2008/07/lkg.html">MyFriend</a></p>
<p>6. <a href="http://mangalore-siva.blogspot.com/2008/07/blog-post_24.html">Mangalore Siva</a></p>
<p>7. <a href="http://podian.blogspot.com/2008/07/blog-post_25.html">Sanjai</a></p>
<p>8. <a href="http://urupudaathathu.blogspot.com/2008/08/for-apple.html">உருப்படாதது அணிமா</a></p>
<p>9. <a href="http://maniyinpakkam.blogspot.com/2008/08/blog-post_28.html">பழமை பேசி</a></p>
<p>10.  <a href="http://thuklak.blogspot.com/2008/08/for-apple.html">Mahesh</a></p>
<p>11. <a href="http://manasukulmaththaapu.blogspot.com/2008/08/for-appletag-post.html">திவ்யா</a></p>
<p>12. <a href="http://manggai.blogspot.com/2008/08/aids.html">மங்கை</a></p>
<p>13. <a href="http://aashamrutha.blogspot.com/2008/07/blog-post.html">புதுகைத் தென்றல்</a></p>
<p>14. <a href="http://letterfrommymind.blogspot.com/2008/08/for-apple.html">பிரியமானவள்</a></p>
<p>15.  <a href="http://siragughal.blogspot.com/2008/08/for-apple.html">திவ்யபிரியா</a></p>
<p>16. <a href="http://msaravanakumar.blogspot.com/2008/07/2a-for-applecom.html">MSK சரவணகுமார்</a></p>
<p>17. <a href="http://karaiyoorakanavugal.blogspot.com/2008/07/for.html">சிறீ</a></p>
<p>18. <a href="http://tamil-naanal.blogspot.com/2008/08/for.html">நாணல்</a></p>
<p>19. <a href="http://ramya-penningthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/08/for-apple.html">ரம்யா ரமணி</a></p>
<p>20. <a href="http://maharajarasigan.blogspot.com/2008/08/blog-post_07.html">க. மகாராசா</a></p>
<p>21. <a href="http://ottraiandril.com/2008/08/01/a-%e0%ae%83%e0%ae%aa%e0%ae%be%e0%ae%b0%e0%af%8d-%e0%ae%86%e0%ae%aa%e0%af%8d%e0%ae%aa%e0%af%81/">சிறீ</a></p>
<p>22. <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/arutperungo/~3/351248785/a-for-apple">அருட்பெருங்கோ</a></p>
<p>23. <a href="http://boochandi.blogspot.com/2008/07/blog-post_31.html">சின்னப்பையன்</a></p>
<p>24. <a href="http://majinnah.blogspot.com/2008/07/z.html">தமிழ் பிரியன்</a></p>
<p>25. <a href="http://kusumbuonly.blogspot.com/2008/07/for-b-for-c-for-d-for.html">குசும்பன்</a></p>
<p>26. <a href="http://mayuonline.com/eblog/a-for-apple/">மயூரேசன்</a></p>
<hr><h2>11 Comments</h2> <ul><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/a-for-apple/#comment-317">July 12, 2008</a>, <a href='http://snapjudge.wordpress.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Balaji</a> wrote:</p><p>அடுத்த வாரத்தில் போட்டுடலாம்</p><p></p><p>பிஹைண்ட்வுட்ஸ், இந்தியாக்ளிட்ஸ் இம்புட்டு செல்கிறீர்களா! :D</p><p></p><p>Nonoh புதிய தளம். நன்றி</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/a-for-apple/#comment-318">July 12, 2008</a>, Tanush K Raam wrote:</p><p>so, nice.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/a-for-apple/#comment-320">July 13, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>Thanks Bala. I am a Tamil movie info addict :(</p><p></p><p>Thanks Raam.</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/a-for-apple/#comment-327">July 23, 2008</a>, <a href='http://snapjudge.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/a-for-apple-tag-by-ravishankar/' rel='external nofollow'>A for Apple - Tag by Ravishankar &laquo; Snap Judgment</a> wrote:</p><p>[...] 23, 2008 &middot; மறுமொழிகள் ஏதும் இல்லை  ரவிசங்கரின் பதிவைப் பின் [...]</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/a-for-apple/#comment-344">July 24, 2008</a>, <a href='http://ramya-penningthoughts.blogspot.com/' rel='external nofollow'>Ramya Ramani</a> wrote:</p><p>Nonoh  எப்படி இருக்கு? Recharge பண்ண கூட நாம Account Transfer பண்ணனும் போல!</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/a-for-apple/#comment-345">July 24, 2008</a>, ravi wrote:</p><p>ramya, for experiences with nonoh and other things see http://ravidreams.net/forum/topic.php?id=47</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/a-for-apple/#comment-346">July 24, 2008</a>, Balaji wrote:</p><p><a href="http://mangalore-siva.blogspot.com/2008/07/blog-post_24.html" rel="nofollow">The only &#39;Colourful&#39; blog: a ப்பார் ஆப்பிள்</a>: மங்களூர் சிவா</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/a-for-apple/#comment-353">July 29, 2008</a>, <a href='http://selections.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/tpads-responsive-customer-service-and-how-i-got-my-free-credit/' rel='external nofollow'>TPad&#8217;s responsive customer service and how I got my free credit! &laquo; &#8230;மற்றுமொரு துளையுள்ள பானை!</a> wrote:</p><p>[...] scheme(to call phone from PC) in the future, I will go for TPad in the future! (provided, Nonoh, prescribed by my friend Ravishankar is not as cheap as [...]</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/a-for-apple/#comment-355">July 30, 2008</a>, <a href='http://mayuonline.com/eblog/a-for-apple/' rel='external nofollow'>A for Apple | MAYUonline.com</a> wrote:</p><p>[...] Ravi tagged me to this meme. Simply you have to check the sites you visited frequently using firefox 3. As far [...]</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/a-for-apple/#comment-459">August 30, 2008</a>, <a href='http://hisubash.wordpress.com/' rel='external nofollow'>சுபாஷ்</a> wrote:</p><p>உருப்படாதது tagged me to this geme.</p><p>so am in!!!</p><p>thankz</p></li><li><p>At <a href="http://microblog.ravidreams.net/a-for-apple/#comment-469">September 1, 2008</a>, <a href='http://www.vichuvichu.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow'>Vishnu</a> wrote:</p><p>உருப்படாதது tagged me to this geme.</p><p>so am in!!!</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanx..</p></li></ul>
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